I’ll start this post by echoing the sentiments of FUCK RACISM, that I’ve seen all over social media this past weekend. Twitter mostly.
Here’s the thing… I believe Danko’s reaction to be heartfelt. There are some strong political statements in the song that lean to the extreme right, which IS Kid Rock’s publicly outspoken position. There’s also a dude in a MAGA hat in the video. So I understand his side very clearly.
As a quick side note, during the Trump/Pence campaign, I was very outspoken against the MAGA movement. I argued with friends that supported it. I never liked any politician, but this was different. It was hate-mongering and a clear backlash response to the Obama presidency, and I still think it’s a major problem that’s likely going to get worse before it gets better.
But when you label someone as racist, you’re launching a campaign to cancel that person (and their band). This thing is snowballing, I saw Strombo tweet with big a FUCK RACISM graphic, he tagged Danko Jones. That’s a VERY powerful voice. These things can blow up. That’s what’s happening!
I know Jon Harvey and consider him a friend. Not just someone that I know in passing from the industry. I can always reach out to him and chat. It’s for this reason that I decided to jump in and stand up for him.
Criticizing his artistic decision to collaborate with Kid Rock is fair. Calling him racist because of it, is not.
To be perfectly honest, I don’t understand Kid Rock (Robert James Ritchie). His persona has always been what it’s been, but it’s partly rooted in Hip-Hop. His only child was with Kelly Russell, a person of colour. His son is named Robert Ritchie Jr.
When it comes to the ugliness of racism, particularly white hate, the biggest offence is mixing race, would he name his only son “Jr.”??
So, despite all his MAGA nonsense, is Bob (as he’s known outside of the comic book character “KID ROCK”) even racist?? I don’t know. I’d personally love to ask him a ton of questions. There’s a lot to unpack there and looking at it objectively, I don’t get it.
I met Danko in passing, he wouldn’t remember me, nor should he. I was just a dude in a radio station when we met. But I’ve bought his music and have been to his shows. His music still resonates with me. I love the We Sweat Blood album, and if you don’t think this is a fucking banger, you don’t get Rock n Roll
But I do know Jon Harvey, and I also really dig Monster Trucks music. I can say with absolute certainty, that I wouldn’t become friends with someone who revealed themselves to be a hateful bigot, racist or general piece of human trash. There were also times when I needed someone to have my back publicly, and I know how much that meant at the time.
It also appears that Danko Jones and Jon Harvey don’t even know each other. This has all been communicated through social media and Blabbermouth. Let’s broker a summit! A sit down, a conversation, a podcast?!?! 🙂 Not even angling for it to be a DTTB thing (although, there is one more episode to come with one of my absolute favourite bands), I’d love to see both of them on Dean’s show. Strombo??
Seriously. It’s so easy to take it online and let it fly from behind a keyboard. That’s literally the biggest problem in our culture, I’ve certainly done it.
Misinformation + social media + instant outrage = cancel culture
Believe me, if I knew what Danko Jones has been saying about Jon Harvey was true, I’d sit back and STFU. 100%
Jon Harvey ain’t racist. Give THIS PODCAST a listen, it was recorded after the murder of George Floyd.
You can not tell me that these are the words and thoughts of a racist person.
Listen, I welcome all conversations but completely disagree with the sentiment that this episode should not have been seen as racist by a person of color or mixed race. We encourage our people to write from their perspective, but I don’t think it’s a white person’s job to determine what racism looks or sounds like to someone like Danko. I think we can learn from this which is why I’m leaving it here. No disrespect to Darryl’s personal perspective, I just don’t share it because I don’t think we can tell a black person how to experience racism. Period, stop. it doesn’t mean we can’t learn from it together in real-time. So the post stays. PS: Darryl is not racist. I’ve known him for 20 years. I just disagree with his perspective and my name is on the banner. That and the greater good is why I crashed his post.
Darryl here, again:
I’m not defending the artistic decision to do this song. Or how anyone should perceive it. All music is subjective and I understand the nature of why this is polarizing. Perhaps, I need to elaborate.
When I first watched this video, my initial reaction was a mix of shock and laughter. It’s so over the top, that it borders on professional wrestling. Kid Rock aims to do this, always has. And yes, there are some shout outs to the far right that will be viewed as “problematic”. If those things weren’t there, there would be no point in having this discussion in the first place.
If it weren’t for the podcast that I recorded with Jon, I also wouldn’t have had anything to say, or add to the discussion that was already in progress. The tone of that podcast that was recorded and released in June of 2020 had a different tone than all of the others because it was about what was happening in America at that moment. I used a soundclip of Killer Mike from Run The Jewels to add context from a well known/trusted black voice. I was happy with the work and it’s because of that conversation that I felt so strongly about standing up for Jon, as a human being.
The world will judge the song and the collaboration. It’s clearly very polarizing, in the current tense racial climate which was (in my opinion) exacerbated by the Trump Presidency.
I also understand that musicians have been hit pretty hard as a result of the pandemic. This will get the band attention south of the border, which is hard and it did crack 3 million views in a couple of days. By those metrics, it did what it was supposed to do.
North of the border….. That stuff will be judged in the court of public opinion and the music economy. But as Jon said in my podcast, “I have no clue what it’s like to be a black American, or a black Canadian…Whatever my genetic make up may be, my appearance to the world is white”. Dean brought a perspective to my attention, that I didn’t take time to consider and I appreciate that.
Anyone that has listened to me, or followed me on social media, I hope would know that racism, hate speech or discrimination are not things that I would ever condone, support or approve of. But sharing ideas and opinions are